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Heal & Create Community: Podcast interview with Kathryn Guylay

I enjoy being a podcast guest when I get the opportunity. I get to have such great conversations. One of the interviews I did earlier this year was with Kathryn Guylay of Make Everything Fun. We discussed writing books, adoption, Brainspotting, couples counseling, & online courses. Kathryn's highlights were: 

#1:  Understand that there might be a difference in how others view your primary legacy and how you view your own (and that’s okay!).

#2:  Recognize that organizing an anthology can be potentially more work than writing one’s own book! (Click here for more information about the anthology that I just contributed to and discussed during this interview).

#3:  Collect stories over time to create your own “story bank” (a creative gold mine!).

#4:  Get to know your “faces of resistance” (to having a bigger voice and reaching more people on a larger platform) so that you can move beyond these obstacles.

You can see more of what she wrote on her blog. While I didn't realize we were going to record video, it does make it a bit easier to share: 

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The Child That Was Not Adopted

This blog was originally published at MLJ Adoptions in 2010. It is republished here with permission as it has been deleted from the original site.  

 

The child that was not adopted will grow up without the love and guidance of parents, without the security and identity of family, and always feeling like the last kid picked for dodgeball. The child that was not adopted has little hope. Depending on his or her country, he or she may have had little access to basic education. Even if he or she does have the opportunity to attend school, he or she will have no one to hold him or her accountable for doing homework or actually learning. The child that was not adopted will have no one to recommend him or her for employment; in many countries, he or she may be given fewer opportunities, including the opportunity to attend college, due simply to his or her status as an orphan.

The child that was not adopted will age out of the orphanage before most American children are allowed to drive. It is estimated that more than 14 million children age out of orphanages each year. Without a sufficient education, sometimes without even basic literacy, job prospects are limited, especially in countries where poverty is rampant. The child that was not adopted will not have the emotional or financial support of a family. If he or she is able to secure employment, he or she will have never learned how to manage resources, pay bills, or set their own schedule. The child that was not adopted is likely to spend what money he or she does have irresponsibly and be unsuccessful at any employment opportunities he or she may be given. The child that was not adopted is most likely to end up on the street.

The child that was not adopted is likely to turn to crime or prostitution simply to survive. Having never experienced love or personal worth, he or she may learn that sex can bring temporary validation. Yet, he or she may not value him or herself enough to ask for proper protection or may never have been taught about safe sex. The child that was not adopted will want to turn to alcohol or drugs to numb the pain, rejection, and fear; he or she may have never learned any other ways to manage emotions. Up to 15 percent choose suicide before they reach adulthood.

The child that was not adopted is vulnerable and easily taken advantage of by others. He or she is a likely candidate to become a victim of crime. The child that is not adopted is only expected to live into his or her mid-twenties. If I had aged out of an orphanage, I would likely be dead already.

When I walked into an orphanage last Fall, a child that was approximately 12 looked away and would not make eye contact with me. A child that was eight or nine, handed me an infant. It broke my heart to know that these children understood that most people are interested in very young children, and they were already giving up hope. They intimately understand rejection, hopelessness, and an absence of self-worth. Although hurt, most are not damaged beyond repair; they are simply missing what a family provides emotionally. These are the children that ask us to please find a family for them also. My heart breaks for these children; I fear for their future. These are the children most in need of love, a family, and a home.

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Overwhelmed by 2020: Lessons on death, dissociation, & dosing

For months leading up to 9-11 I attended one funeral each month. There was the girl from my small high school (car accident), the friend I watched fight cancer all through high school and while I started college, the middle school student hit on a scooter, and church leaders. There were also medical scares with other church leaders that hung heavy. I clearly remember being up for an early class and getting a call from my dad to inform me about the most recent unexpected death; I went back to bed instead of going to class. On September 11th, I was driving because I was late for that same class and caught the first news reports about a plane flying into the twin towers as I was parking. Like most people I have some clear memories about how that day was different from every other. Unlike most people, I wasn’t scared. I wasn’t shaken. I didn’t watch the news for hours. I didn’t feel much. I was dissociated. I was disconnected from emotions because I had reached my threshold of grief and stress. 

9-11 by itself was enough to overwhelm many people’s capacity for grief and stress and fear. My heart disconnected from the world around me to protect me from that trauma because I no longer had the resources to process it. Many others experienced trauma reactions as their hearts and brains tried to process something overwhelming. Dissociation is protective. 

As we headed into March of 2020 things were looking promising for me. I was simplifying and downsizing. We were looking forward to semifinals for volleyball and starting rugby practice in April. I have friends in Australia, so we had paid attention to the wildfires. We have family in Samoa and had worried about their measles epidemic. Kobe Bryant was shocking and reminded us how nothing is guaranteed. Then COVID-19 shut down everything in what seemed like just a few hours. I had a fever, briefly. Elearning. Murder hornets. Members of my church family became ill with COVID and were hospitalized. A former colleague still struggles to recover. I have family members who have a compromised immune system, but social media complained about wearing masks. We pivoted. I have the privilege to be able to work from home. Elearning was unpleasant for everyone, but we could stay in and sanitize and stay safe from the virus.

Ahmed Arbery’s murder was terrifying as my dark skinned son wanted to cruise his bike around our new suburban neighborhood. Social media was covered with his photo. A group texted alerted me that a Black man had been shot by police right outside of my friend’s neighborhood. Indianapolis Metro Police also shot another Black man and ran over a pregnant woman that same night, although they haven’t gotten as much attention. I was already lamenting and concerned about my son’s safety when George Floyd was heartlessly tortured to death in broad daylight, while four men waited for him to die, apathetic to cameras and the cries of witnesses. Those photos on social media disgusted me and made my blood run cold, but I struggled to stop scrolling. Protests against police brutality were met by more excessive force and brutality by police. My friends were sprayed with pepper spray, shot with tear gas, targeted by concussion grenades, and shot in the face with rubber bullets. There were riots. Lynchings. While more people began speaking up and unlearning, social media became more polarized than ever - or maybe I was just too compelled to keep scrolling. 

Then suddenly a young family friend died just a few days after the birth of her first child. Just a few hours before her death, I had loved a photo she shared on social media of her new daughter and she had loved my reaction. In the last ten years her father and brother had both died suddenly. Her grandmother had passed right before COVID. It was too much. It isn’t fair. My heart is broken for her mother, her newborn, and her husband. She was already making an impact on the world through her relationships and work. Her loss is felt be many. 

The day she died, I told my dad that it felt like a bad dream; it just couldn’t be real. The sun was shining outside, and it just didn’t fit with reality. The next day, I tried to send a Marco Polo to one of my best friends and couldn’t. I didn’t want to say the words. I didn’t want to open up all the feelings. I had been grieving for three months and this loss was the straw that broke me. I knew I needed to Brainspot myself but I couldn’t bring myself to do it. I avoided certain conversations. I finally recognized the dissociation. I was shunning all the thoughts and feelings because it felt like too much. 

Even without this personal tragedy, 2020 has been enough to overwhelm anyone. You are likely finding some dissociation in yourself. Even as I was compelled to keep scrolling social media, it was a form of dissociation. I was staying “informed” and “engaged”, but was I processing my feelings? Making donations and writing letters was my real action; scrolling only helped me hold on to the feelings. Over-focusing on some conversations while ignoring others is a form of dissociation. Getting lost in a book or binging Netflix is another way people dissociate. As the pandemic took hold in America, I listened to a podcast where Dr. Bruce D. Perry (listen to it, he’s one of my favorites) suggested parents help their children to *dose their dissociation, allowing screen time, but in small doses rather than binges. At times we all need a break from certain thoughts or emotions. Get lost in a book, stream Hamilton, go for a walk, play candy crush if that is your thing. Do it purposefully to take the necessary break from what you are feeling or thinking. When I gave in to the compulsion to scroll social media, I wasn’t giving my heart and brain the break it needed from the tragedies; instead I was hyper focused and feeding the overwhelm. Yes, it helped me find small connections that I needed via DMs, but there are more efficient ways to connect. Relational connection is an important part of neurobiological regulation. 

Because I did not dose my dissociation well before, dissociation took over when the stress became too much. I am tired. I am fatigued. I am sad. I have used this blog to help me reconnect. When I did talk to my friend (five days later) she responded, “When you said you couldn’t say the words. I totally understand that. There is so much that happens where it’s too much to say the words.” I am pretty lucky to have friends who are also therapists who do their own work. I am thankful for the gift of Brainspotting because I don’t have to say the words. Many of my clients don’t want to say the words. Brainspotting works when you don’t want to talk to a therapist or you just can’t. This weekend I have chosen my dissociation to start working my way back. I need to grieve. I need to lament. I need to lean on my hope. I need to feel my feelings, observe my thoughts, and notice how my body reacts. We will not see an end to COVID-19 or structural racism any time soon. To have the emotional stamina for this marathon, I have to choose my dissociation and dose it rather than binge it. I need sleep and good food (less sugar) and exercise and connection and laughter to hold on to my neurobiological regulation. 

 

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COVID-19 Pandemic Impact on the Core Adoption Issues

Probably the most popular thing I have ever written is the blog on the 7 Core Emotional Issues in Adoption. It has been on my site since 2014, but I still regularly get emails from people who found that blog and just wanted to share with me that they felt seen by what I had written and often that they were able to make new connections between their behaviors, feelings, and past experiences. (I should probably update the image on that blog which feels very 2014 in design).

 
As we started hunkering down to shelter in place, I watched carefully the reactions of adoptees - adults and children - and how those were different from non-adoptees. While we have observed regression in children across the board, many young adoptees are responding positively to more time with family and having to navigate fewer relationships. Cocooning is very helpful during adoption adjustment, but several families are now re-thinking “normal” and how to integrate what is working now even when restrictions are lifted. Adult adoptees and birth parents on the other hand may find they are struggling with restrictions and isolation. Recently, I was asked to lead a discussion for the Indiana Adoptee Network and we talked about many ways this pandemic is touching on the Core Emotional Issues in Adoption. 
 
Core Adoption Issues in COVID-19 pandemic
 

Fear

Adoption in itself can be a trauma, not to mention the traumas that may have led to needing adoption or the traumas that may have occurred while waiting for adoption. It is not surprising that a child placed in the care of strangers who may not look like anyone else he or she has ever seen and may speak an entirely different language feels afraid. *The more fear one has experienced, the more likely one is to react with fear to experiences in the future.* There are many things to fear in this pandemic, but adoptees and birth parents may find that they have more fear reactions than others. A common fear for both adoptees and birth parents is searching for each other and finding a grave; with so much death right now that fear has only been magnified. One birth mother shared that she was afraid she would not even be notified if something happened to her child. 
 

Control

In adoption, major, life-altering decisions are made for the adopted person and sometimes for the birth parents, often without their consent. It is no wonder that those impacted by adoption often have a need to control certain things. This can play out differently for different people and may be recognized in anxiety disorders, dysfunctional relationships, eating disorders, etc. Some who control their environment are finding it distressing right now to not have access to the cleaning products they usually use. Some may find they are very resistant to restrictions because it feels like control. In our discussion though it was agreed that trying to control things can be exhausting, especially as this pandemic is teaching us that there is almost nothing in life that we can truly control. 
 

Grief/Loss

Just like with fear, all subsequent losses are a reminder of past losses. No matter the details of the adoption, the age at which adoption occurred, or whether there are "memories" of the birth family, loss is a major component of adoption. Loss of the birth/first family can be extremely powerful even if the child was placed with the adoptive family at birth. Loss of culture can complicate identity issues, particularly in transracial adoptions; however, this loss may not be able to be fully grieved until children reach adolescence and sometimes even adulthood. Loss of country, language, etc. can be involved in international adoptions.
 
Each subsequent loss is more powerful and may be experienced more powerfully than others might expect. During this pandemic, we are grieving several losses: places we wanted to go, trips we had planned, people we miss, changes in employment, and deaths. There is no right or wrong way to grieve, but those with a history of loss may be feeling especially fragile right now. 
 

Guilt/Shame

Adoptees and birth parents both carry guilt and shame for different reasons. The shame experienced when rejected by a potential date is nothing compared to feeling rejected by one's mother. Some believe that their behavior was the cause of rejection or abandonment. Some believe that they do not have value and were not good enough a or cute enough. This is too heavy of a burden for anyone, especially a child, to bear in my opinion. Birth parents often carry guilt or shame for not parenting. Enduring feelings of guilt may lead to a greater likelihood of experiencing guilt in the future. One specific concern right now is the potential to unknowingly spread COVID-19, causing someone else to fall ill or even die. 
 

Rejection/abandonment

While these are separate ideas, they can play out very similarly. Even when we know that an adoption plan was created out of love and with the child's best interests in mind, it doesn't mean that the adoptee (child or adult) doesn't feel rejected or abandoned. Birth parents may have experienced rejection or abandonment by others in their life as a result of events surrounding pregnancy and adoption. Rejection and abandonment are fears both birth parents and adoptees have in search and reunion. Often when an individual feels he or she has been rejected or abandoned in the past, they are constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop with the next person. While they may rationally understand why friends and family members do not want to see them while social distancing, it can still feel like rejection or abandonment. 
 

Intimacy

Many times it is relationship or marital issues that cause adult adoptees to seek out counseling services initially. Often adoption issues are the cause of relationship issues, but sometimes they simply exacerbate the concern. One reason for this is that it is often not until late 20s-mid 30s (depending on a variety of factors) when we are neurologically developed enough to fully process all the complexities and impacts adoption has had on one's life. Feeling cut off from close relationships - friends and family members - may be especially painful for adoptees and birth parents. 
 

Identity

"Where do I fit?" Is a question that many adoptees ask again and again from a very early age. Even in same-race infant adoptions, children seem to innately understand that genetics contributes to who they are and what they will become. When adopting across country borders or racial lines or at an older age, the question of identity becomes even more complicated. If we have used a job or an activity or a social group to help define identity, feeling cut off from those things may be extra distressing. We were also able to discuss how holding on to things that feel like a part of one’s story can lead to hoarding-like behaviors when there is a greater need for identity development. 
 
 
Indiana Adoptee Network is open to all members of the triad (including those outside of Indiana). In place of the conference this year, they are hosting a series of Friday night “Happy Hour” online events
 

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4 Types of Music Used in Therapy

Therapists may integrate any of these four types of music into your sessions for part or all of the counseling session to specifically reach your brain and enhance your brain’s healing capacities. Music Therapy, on the other hand, is the use of creating music, singing, moving to, and/or listening to regular music as a part of therapy. 

Bi-lateral music is used as a part of Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing (EMDR) therapy. The sound alternates between the left and right sides of the head in a steady, rhythmic pattern. The rhythmic shift is predictable and can be alerting to some. 

BIO-lateral music was created by Dr. David Grand, the developer of Brainspotting (BSP), and is used as a part of Brainspotting therapy. It is hand panned to increase in volume in the left ear then decrease in volume before slowing increasing in volume in the right ear then decreasing, back and forth…rocking gently between the left and right hemispheres of the brain. It is intended to be played through headphones at a very low, almost imperceptible volume. Many people find it calming while also deepening access to the midbrain for deeper processing. 

Bilateral and Biolateral music can be found readily online and through popular music platforms; however, it is always recommended that you try it first in the presence (physical or via Telehealth) of an attuned therapist to determine how your brain is likely to respond. If you and your therapist believe it fits for your process, you may use them at other times during your week or you may only use these types of music while working with your therapist. While the two can easily be confused, they are different. I recommend searching for “David Grand” or “Brainspotting” if you are looking for biolateral music, although other options do exist. I believe these free options qualify as biolateral 

Safe & Sound Protocol (SSP) uses prosodic vocal music that has been filtered to train the middle ear to tune out low frequency sounds which can be considered signals of danger, while tuning into high frequency sounds that signal safety, like human voices. SSP is a stand alone protocol recommended for those with trauma, autism, auditory sensitivities, etc. SSP is a protocol that requires oversight by a trained SSP provider. As a therapist licensed in Indiana and Massachusetts, I am able to work with individuals in those states through remote delivery. You can find other providers in your area here

Binaural beats is a technique of combining two slightly different sound frequencies, one in each ear, to create the perception of a single new frequency tone in the brain. Different frequencies are used to promote relaxation and positivity or concentration and alertness. While it can be used as a part of entrainment, binaural beats is not a part of a specific therapeutic treatment. Binaural beats are also readily available online. While some therapists have introduced binaural beats into the therapy process, it is not a part of any specific therapeutic process. Please proceed with caution if trying binaural beats. 

 

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Consumer Mentality v. Commitment Mentality in Adoption

This blog was originally posted at MLJadoptions in 2013. It is reposted with slight updates 

I am so grateful that I was asked to speak at NACAC again this year. Attending adoption conferences makes me a better parent by providing a bit of respite (thanks to wonderfully supportive parents that my child loves spending time with), re-inspiring and refocusing me on the most important aspects of adoptive parenting and the work I do, and creating opportunities to connect with adoption professionals, adoptive parents, and adult adoptees who can all offer important insight and support. I am particularly thankful for the confirmation provided by an international adult adoptee on parenting choices I have made while I was at NACAC this year. I hope more adoptive parents consider attending adoption conferences, especially those like NACAC geared towards adoptive parents striving to be the best that they can be by seeking out new information, new resources, and different opinions.

I have met some inspiring professionals by attending adoption conferences. This year I got so much more out of Maris Blechner’s session than I had even hoped. Her emphasis was on inspiring a commitment mentality in adoptive parents rather than the consumer mentality that is rampant in our society. She reminded us that we may not realize just how self-focused we are individually because the consumer mentality is so built in to our society. We are taught that ‘the customer is always right’ and if we don’t get what we want, complaining to the manager or calling the company out on twitter is likely to get us something for free. 
 
Adoption is a commitment that you enter into blindly, but it is no different than adding a child by birth. It is essential that adopting parents are committed to making it work, committed to parenting this child for the rest of their lives, and committed to parenting through the tough stuff. Parenting is the most important, most difficult job you will ever have and this can be even more true in adoption. Whether you add a child to your family through birth or adoption, you cannot guarantee personality, health (in the short term or the long term), or even physical resemblance. Commitment mentality is selfless and puts aside all of what we have dreamed and envisioned our child to be to meet him or her where he or she is, to love all that he or she is and all that he or she is not, and to do the hard work of parenting when it is difficult and not what you had envisioned. Commitment mentality leaves little to no room for disruption or rehoming.
 
Nearly all will immediately want to state that they come from a commitment mentality rather than a consumer mentality in adoption. In general we don’t like to face our entitlement. Commitment mentality faces head-on the struggles of adoptive parenting. Commitment mentality looks for the child’s needs before being concerned with the child’s behavior. Commitment mentality accepts the potential that the child’s age may be mis-approximated, health issues may be unknown, and you may learn about siblings that also need you at a later point.
 
I do believe there are some expectations you can have of your agency. You can expect honesty and responsiveness. You can expect ethical practices, but please do your homework. You can also expect that there are many aspects of the process that are as out of your agency's control as they are yours. There should be customer-service from an agency, but as far as the child is concerned, Mrs. Bletchner says, "there is no room or place for consumer mentality in any successful adoption." Because consumer mentality is so built into our culture, it requires constant vigilance to remain in a committed mentality. The child that joins your family is your child. Entering into the adoption process, you have committed to parenting and committed to this child. Claiming is an important part of helping your child feel safe and integrated into your family. While it is important for my son to hear my refer to him as "my son", it is even more important for him that my heart has claimed the role of "his mom". I am his; I have given myself to him, but it is up to him if he will claim me. No matter how difficult it may get, he can count on me.

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Start Right, Stay Connected: A One-Day Premarital Workshop

While wedding planning can be stressful, there is something so fun about an engagement and that first year as newlyweds. There is hope, excitement, and often lots of heart-warming appreciation and loving gazes. It has always been fun for me as to work with premarital couples and newlyweds. Typically marriage preparation counseling and education programs are completed prior to the wedding, but research supports that the window of opportunity can last into the first year of marriage and will reduce the chances of divorce and increase marital satisfaction, both immediately and long-term. 

  • In 2003, Carroll & Doherty found 92% of couples reported premarital counseling helped during their first year of marriage. Four years later, 80% still reported premarital counseling was helping in their marriage. 
  • In 2004, the same researches found that those who participated in a premarital education program were significantly better off afterwards than 79% of those who did not participate. 
  • In 2006, Stanley, Amato, Johnson, & Markham found that premarital education increased satisfaction and commitment in marriage and reduced conflict and likelihood of divorce regardless of race, income, and education. 

I believe so strongly in premarital counseling and education, that I will not officiate a wedding unless a couple has completed a premarital counseling/education program. (Yes, I am also an ordained wedding officiant - I love weddings!) Those who participate in premarital counseling and/or premarital education programs report they are better at resolving conflict, better able to communicate effectively, feel a stronger connection, and are ore satisfied with their relationship than ever before. One thing I appreciate is that if couples do come back to work through a conflict or issue later on, it usually takes us much less time to do so than it would with other couples, primarily because they already have the knowledge and skills needed to work through conflicts; they simply need a bit of support and guidance. In so many ways, premarital counseling and education can save you money. 

In 2019, I will be offering my first premarital counseling/education workshop. Start Right Stay Connected is a program founded on the most recent research as well as the clinical experience of hundreds of marriage counselors from around the world. In this one day workshop, engaged and newly married couples will learn 

  • Powerful communication skills 
  • Practical tools for relationship “hot buttons”
  • Effective (and peaceful) conflict resolution
  • How to remove negativity from the relationship
  • How to keep romance alive, nurture, and grow your relationship
  • And we will have fun too

Start Right, Stay Connected is relationship education, not therapy, and includes lectures, demonstrations, couple’s dialogues in break out rooms, and written exercises. There are many opportunities for group sharing, but the seminar emphasizes partners’ sharing privately with one another. You are not required to share anything with the group except for a brief introduction and closing.

Saturday, March 23, 2019

@GreenHouseIndy

447 E. 38th Street

Indianapolis, IN  46205

 

$300 per couple (less than two individual sessions)

Coffee, tea, water, and snacks provided

 

Register here and choose any date (quirk in the system)

For more information email@brooke-randolph.com

 

 

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