You can listen to the interview here: https://theadoptionconnection.com/episode-151/
The Adoption Connection is a podcast and group of resources run by Lisa Qualls and Melissa Corkum. Lisa Qualls is a Birth/First Mom and Adoptive Mom. She is mother to twelve children by birth and adoption and former foster parents. She is the author of The Connected Parent which she co-wrote with the late Dr. Karyn Purvis. As a Trust-Based Relational Intervention (TBRI®) Practitioner and Certified Enneagram coach, she supports adoptive parents in their parenting journey. Melissa Corkum is an Adoptee and Adoptive Mom. She is mother to six by both birth and adoption (ages 14-23). Her family’s open-door policy has blessed them with lots of honorary family members along the way. As an Enneagram Coach, Safe and Sound Practitioner, and Empowered to Connected parent trainer, she loves helping families laugh more and yell less.